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How the Libs forget so quickly…. London Sunday Times BYLINE: James Adams It was the moment President Bill Clinton wanted to restore his tattered reputation with the military before his departure for the D-Day celebrations in Europe this week, James Adams reports. He had just presented posthumous Congressional Medals of Honour, America’s highest military decoration, to the widows of two soldiers for valour in Somalia. After inviting the families for a moment of quiet reflection in the Oval Office, the president approached Herbert Shughart, the father of one of the two soldiers, and offered his hand. To his astonishment the handshake was declined. ‘You are not fit to be president of the United States,’ said Shughart Senior. ‘The blame for my son’s death rests with the White House and with you. You are not fit to command.’ The president reeled and the unprecedented onslaught continued for some minutes. According to witnesses it was a ‘highly charged emotional moment’ which resulted in Clinton trying to explain to Shughart,Sr. why the events of that day last October were not his fault. Shughart and his colleague, both sergeants, were killed trying to rescue fellow rangers from a vicious fire-fight in which 18 died and 75 were wounded. A later Pentagon investigation revealed that the troops had been refused the right equipment and there was no political or military plan to justify the Americ an presence in Somalia. Although the president has tried to escape the blame, he is largely credited with the failure of the whole American effort to bring peace to Somalia. According to witnesses to the Oval Office scene, the Shughart family remained unconvinced by the president’s arguments. ‘The medal doesn’t help anything, other than that we are grateful that Randy will be remembered in such an honourable way,’ said Lois Shughart, the soldier’s mother. Since the row, the White House has been desperate to contain the damage in advance of the D-Day celebrations. ‘Everyone wants to make sure that the president arrives in Europe as the commander in chief and not as a man seen as unfit to lead,’ said one White House source. Weeks of feverish preparation have gone into the European trip to commemorate the Normandy landings and it has been designed to attract reflected glory for the president, who avoided the draft during the Vietnam war. Yesterday in his Memorial Day address, the day when America honours its war dead, Clinton said there were limits to committing US troops abroad in the new post-Cold War era. The greatest challenge, he said, came from the ‘the smouldering embers of ethnic and religious hatreds’ in places like Bosnia and Rwanda. ‘We cannot dispatch our troops to solve every problem where our values are offended by human misery, and we should not,’ Clinton said. ‘We are prepared to defend ourselves and our fundamental interests when they are threatened.’

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PLONK!

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When everything is going wrong for your fucking heroes, you blame Clinton. So much for personal responsibility, huh, Ralph? What a pussy.

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> When everything is going wrong for your fucking heroes, you blame Clinton. > So much for personal responsibility, huh, Ralph? What a pussy.

boy howdy.

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Ms. Rice says "We go with the information we have now." because we didn’t know then what we know sol that excuses everything tomorrow.

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"…" Of course, his middle name is "… …. .. – …. . .- -.."

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>When everything is going wrong for your fucking heroes, you blame Clinton. >So much for personal responsibility, huh, Ralph? What a pussy.

LOL! You read the 1 in 100 posts about Clinton and then say it’s all about Clinton? What a pussy. PLONK!

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>boy howdy.

Are you riding Mulay right now?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->When everything is going wrong for your fucking heroes, you blame Clinton. >So much for personal responsibility, huh, Ralph? What a pussy. > LOL! You read the 1 in 100 posts about Clinton and then say it’s all > about Clinton? > What a pussy. > PLONK!

Oh, boohoo. I’ve been plonked. Will my life EVER be the same??? Sob! Sob! I guess I will have to fall on my soldering iron….!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> How the Libs forget so quickly…. > London Sunday Times > BYLINE: James Adams > It was the moment President Bill Clinton wanted to restore his > tattered reputation with the military before his departure for the > D-Day celebrations in Europe this week, James Adams reports. > He had just presented posthumous Congressional Medals of Honour, > America’s highest military decoration, to the widows of two soldiers > for valour in Somalia. After inviting the families for a moment of > quiet reflection in the Oval Office, the president approached Herbert > Shughart, the father of one of the two soldiers, and offered his hand. > To his astonishment the handshake was declined. ‘You are not fit to be > president of the United States,’ said Shughart Senior. ‘The blame for > my son’s death rests with the White House and with you. You are not > fit to command.’

I did not like the Clintons one bit during their administration.  However, my political views didn’t lead to the level of hatred that is common to the Bush’s opponents of today.  My opinion is that the Clintons’ inactions regarding direct attacks and threats from Muslim terrorists are the chief reasons we are fighting extremists right now. Having said that, I remember the incident in the above post and I remember being appalled by the statement made by the distraught father.  IMO, it was uncalled for.  I thought it was not only disrespectful to the office of the President but also to the memory of the soldier who was killed.  The father was not in control of his grief should have stayed home that day. Steve

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> I did not like the Clintons one bit during their administration.

Do you mean the administration that provided a vibrant economy, more jobs and a balanced budget?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > How the Libs forget so quickly…. > London Sunday Times > BYLINE: James Adams > It was the moment President Bill Clinton wanted to restore his > tattered reputation with the military before his departure for the > D-Day celebrations in Europe this week, James Adams reports. > He had just presented posthumous Congressional Medals of Honour, > America’s highest military decoration, to the widows of two soldiers > for valour in Somalia. After inviting the families for a moment of > quiet reflection in the Oval Office, the president approached Herbert > Shughart, the father of one of the two soldiers, and offered his hand. > To his astonishment the handshake was declined. ‘You are not fit to be > president of the United States,’ said Shughart Senior. ‘The blame for > my son’s death rests with the White House and with you. You are not > fit to command.’ > The president reeled and the unprecedented onslaught continued for > some minutes. According to witnesses it was a ‘highly charged > emotional moment’ which resulted in Clinton trying to explain to > Shughart,Sr. why the events of that day last October were not his > fault. > Shughart and his colleague, both sergeants, were killed trying to > rescue fellow rangers from a vicious fire-fight in which 18 died and > 75 > were wounded. A later Pentagon investigation revealed that the troops > had been refused the right equipment and there was no political or > military plan to justify the American presence in Somalia. < snip>

Hey–it sounds JUST LIKE what’s going on now in Iraq! Except that Bush is now responsible for the deaths of over 2,200 US soldiers.  Only 43 died in Somalia.  That makes Bush about 51 times worse than Clinton–and counting. Plus, Clinton didn’t get us into a war by lying to us.  Bush did. Aren’t you the moron, Ralphie.      –E

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according to rumor Clinton didn’t lose one soldier in Kosovo and solved the problem. whereas Bush – dead dead dead incompetant incompetant incompetant.

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>Hey–it sounds JUST LIKE what’s going on now in Iraq! >Except that Bush is now responsible for the deaths of over 2,200 US >soldiers.  Only 43 died in Somalia.  That makes Bush about 51 times >worse than Clinton–and counting.

HEY… and that means Kennedy and Johnson were about 1400 times worse than Clinton and counting and Reagan was 43 times better. Awesome… >Plus, Clinton didn’t get us into a war by lying to us.  Bush did.

Shit-for-brains here doesn’t realize it was Clinton’s fault that 9/11 and the Iraq war happened in the first place. He let the situation in Iraq get way out of hand and did nothing, ultimately giving Osama confidence that nothing would happen if he took out the WTC, because we were "Paper Tigers". Read it and weep, Lib: http://www.statenews.com/editionsfall97/111497/p1_iraq.html Friday, November 14, 1997 Iraq kicks out U.S. inspectors Rubner said that considerable evidence has been found over the last six years that Saddam violated every U.N. resolution passed in the wake of the Persian Gulf War. McCurry said it was important to hold together the international coalition against Iraq.